Comments on: Google Supplemental Results Index - A Word To The Wise http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/ Internet Marketing And SEO From A Different Point Of View Wed, 27 Aug 2008 23:11:56 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Forget We Ever Mentioned A Supplemental Index - Google | BPWrap http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-136908 Forget We Ever Mentioned A Supplemental Index - Google | BPWrap Sat, 05 Jan 2008 19:37:11 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-136908 [...] Related: Supplemental Result in Google - Hell or Help - March 31st, 2007 Google Supplemental Results Index - A Word To The Wise - July 9th, 2006 Google Supplemental Label Out, PageRank Next? - August 1st, 2007 [...] [...] Related: Supplemental Result in Google - Hell or Help - March 31st, 2007 Google Supplemental Results Index - A Word To The Wise - July 9th, 2006 Google Supplemental Label Out, PageRank Next? - August 1st, 2007 [...]

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-73299 Barry Welford Sat, 31 Mar 2007 14:28:29 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-73299 Matt Cutts has recently said it's all a question of PageRank as to whether a web page goes into the supplemental results index or not. Presumably if you can get some higher PageRank inlinks to the web page, then that will boost its own PageRank and it will in due course get out of the index. Of course that will only happen after a spider finds one of those other inlinks and then spiders your web page again. Thanks for the comment, Alan. Matt Cutts has recently said it’s all a question of PageRank as to whether a web page goes into the supplemental results index or not. Presumably if you can get some higher PageRank inlinks to the web page, then that will boost its own PageRank and it will in due course get out of the index. Of course that will only happen after a spider finds one of those other inlinks and then spiders your web page again. Thanks for the comment, Alan.

]]> By: Alan Walker http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-73255 Alan Walker Sat, 31 Mar 2007 13:20:00 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-73255 I have looked into supplemental results with a few interesting findings, if a page is orphand from the main directory structure it goes into supplemental results, this is an easy problem to fix, but when a page is not orphand and has good content and abides by all googles rules and the page has no PR that is worring and as yet I have not found out the reason for it... All the best from Alan I have looked into supplemental results with a few interesting findings, if a page is orphand from the main directory structure it goes into supplemental results, this is an easy problem to fix, but when a page is not orphand and has good content and abides by all googles rules and the page has no PR that is worring and as yet I have not found out the reason for it…

All the best from Alan

]]> By: The Supplemental Study » Brandon Hopkins http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-66225 The Supplemental Study » Brandon Hopkins Sun, 11 Mar 2007 16:17:24 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-66225 [...] In the recent weeks there has been a lot of talk about supplemental results. Supplemental results occur when Google thinks that the pages in your site are all the same page (or too similar) to list them as their own entry. [...] [...] In the recent weeks there has been a lot of talk about supplemental results. Supplemental results occur when Google thinks that the pages in your site are all the same page (or too similar) to list them as their own entry. [...]

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-59673 Barry Welford Fri, 19 Jan 2007 14:29:19 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-59673 You're right, Ian. I assume you're referring to the meta tags for description and keywords, which are disregarded by Google in its search algorithm and presumably in the decision as to supplemental index or not. So it comes down to the Title. Even if that's unique but the total page content is remarkably similar to other web pages, then that would likely be enough to leave these pages in the supplemental index. You’re right, Ian. I assume you’re referring to the meta tags for description and keywords, which are disregarded by Google in its search algorithm and presumably in the decision as to supplemental index or not. So it comes down to the Title. Even if that’s unique but the total page content is remarkably similar to other web pages, then that would likely be enough to leave these pages in the supplemental index.

]]> By: Ian Smith http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-59664 Ian Smith Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:39:09 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-59664 Bobby, generating unique Title, Description, keywords for each and every page will not help. All my pages but one are supplemental and each has a unique Title, Description and keywords. I also have a good sitemap which I added but that hasnt helped either - fortunately MSN (live search) and Yahoo like the site search. Ian Bobby, generating unique Title, Description, keywords for each and every page will not help. All my pages but one are supplemental and each has a unique Title, Description and keywords. I also have a good sitemap which I added but that hasnt helped either - fortunately MSN (live search) and Yahoo like the site search.

Ian

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-53276 Barry Welford Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:01:59 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-53276 Bobby, if you feel that the Google spiders would find unique static pages if they were spidering your website, then perhaps it's time to contact Google directly and let them know that you have made changes. Of course if all the web pages look substantially the same apart from the title and description, then they may still be regarded as duplicates. Bobby, if you feel that the Google spiders would find unique static pages if they were spidering your website, then perhaps it’s time to contact Google directly and let them know that you have made changes. Of course if all the web pages look substantially the same apart from the title and description, then they may still be regarded as duplicates.

]]> By: Bobby http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-53260 Bobby Wed, 03 Jan 2007 07:15:45 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-53260 Hello, I have a site that contains sections displaying unique information. However, as a novice to SEO, I did not make my scripts to generate dynamically unique Title, Meta keywords, and meta description. I think this is what resulted in ALL my pages linked on my site to be supplemental and leaves my index.pl page as the only normal indexed site in Google. The other pages that are supplemental are very unique in its own way. For example, I offer my members inidivdual profiles which are all unique in its own way according to the member. I also have a page that lists consensus handicapping information that displays data for every different sport games. However, Google will consider all these pages supplemental. Could it be because of he url? For example: /Consensus.pl?day=3&yr=2007&mo=1&sport=NBA... However if you goto just Consensus.pl (then by default it will display the most recent previous game date)----therefore GOogle doesnt even need to see the parameter attached after the file name. I really would want Google to appreciate these unique content pages because its I feel it is valuable not only for my sites SERP's but useful for my audience as well. I spent a whole day in generating unique Title, Description, keywords for each and every page----Now my question is , whats the fastest way to recover from Supplemental hell? Any suggestion will greatly be appreciated. Thanks Hello,

I have a site that contains sections displaying unique information.

However, as a novice to SEO, I did not make my scripts to generate dynamically unique Title, Meta keywords, and meta description.

I think this is what resulted in ALL my pages linked on my site to be supplemental and leaves my index.pl page as the only normal indexed site in Google.

The other pages that are supplemental are very unique in its own way.

For example, I offer my members inidivdual profiles which are all unique in its own way according to the member. I also have a page that lists consensus handicapping information that displays data for every different sport games. However, Google will consider all these pages supplemental. Could it be because of he url? For example: /Consensus.pl?day=3&yr=2007&mo=1&sport=NBA…

However if you goto just Consensus.pl (then by default it will display the most recent previous game date)—-therefore GOogle doesnt even need to see the parameter attached after the file name.

I really would want Google to appreciate these unique content pages because its I feel it is valuable not only for my sites SERP’s but useful for my audience as well.

I spent a whole day in generating unique Title, Description, keywords for each and every page—-Now my question is , whats the fastest way to recover from Supplemental hell?

Any suggestion will greatly be appreciated.

Thanks

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-49158 Barry Welford Wed, 27 Dec 2006 20:01:04 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-49158 I don't know how you would remove any web pages from Google cache directly. I'm not aware that Yahoo or MSN (Live) do anything similar. I don’t know how you would remove any web pages from Google cache directly. I’m not aware that Yahoo or MSN (Live) do anything similar.

]]> By: Krish Purnawarman http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-49049 Krish Purnawarman Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:23:49 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-49049 hi Barry My name is krish from Bali, thanks for making this blog, after reading all these post on Supplmental results, would eliminating them from the G cache be a fast solution. Removing them from G and then redirecting the URL?.. Do you know any similar thing like this being done in Yahoo and MSN? thanks hi Barry

My name is krish from Bali,
thanks for making this blog, after reading all these post on Supplmental results, would eliminating them from the G cache be a fast solution. Removing them from G and then redirecting the URL?..
Do you know any similar thing like this being done in Yahoo and MSN?

thanks

]]> By: dan http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-7311 dan Sun, 19 Nov 2006 22:15:22 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-7311 Ok on supplemental results can a site that has bad grammar cause it to be placed into supplemental results. 2nd question how about content that makes no senses ? Ok on supplemental results can a site that has bad grammar
cause it to be placed into supplemental results.

2nd question how about content that makes no senses ?

]]> By: Dwayne http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-7021 Dwayne Fri, 17 Nov 2006 19:44:37 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-7021 At this point Google is not very consistant on what they deside to put in the suplimental results. I have three cars dealers. All three use the same software (asp pages) to display thier inventory. one has no supplimental pages. one (the smallest with the least pages and links) only has one supplimental page. that page has has errors on it in the past, so that make sence. The last one is almost all supplimental. It doesn't matter if the page is unique, has quality content, or has any dynamic variables. It seems a given that Google doesn't like one of the sites for some reason. Perhaps the server was down the last time Google tried indexing it. But Google is not consistant in its choices. At this point Google is not very consistant on what they deside to put in the suplimental results.

I have three cars dealers. All three use the same software (asp pages) to display thier inventory. one has no supplimental pages. one (the smallest with the least pages and links) only has one supplimental page. that page has has errors on it in the past, so that make sence. The last one is almost all supplimental.

It doesn’t matter if the page is unique, has quality content, or has any dynamic variables. It seems a given that Google doesn’t like one of the sites for some reason. Perhaps the server was down the last time Google tried indexing it. But Google is not consistant in its choices.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-5236 Barry Welford Thu, 02 Nov 2006 11:12:51 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-5236 It seems to me, NetNeo, that you've got to generate more links to such a web page and these other links if sufficiently authoritative will eventually 'drag' the web page out of supplemental. I'm pretty sure that doing anything on the web page itself will be of zero value. It seems to me, NetNeo, that you’ve got to generate more links to such a web page and these other links if sufficiently authoritative will eventually ‘drag’ the web page out of supplemental. I’m pretty sure that doing anything on the web page itself will be of zero value.

]]> By: NetNeo http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-5213 NetNeo Thu, 02 Nov 2006 08:40:40 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-5213 You said: “That suggests to me it’s better to do what it takes to get your web pages into the regular index and avoid the supplemental index. ” If your page is not being shown in the main index but only in the supplemental, then how do others find it in the first place to link to it! Chicken and egg. You said: “That suggests to me it’s better to do what it takes to get your web pages into the regular index and avoid the supplemental index. ”

If your page is not being shown in the main index but only in the supplemental, then how do others find it in the first place to link to it! Chicken and egg.

]]> By: Google Success http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-4921 Google Success Mon, 30 Oct 2006 00:43:16 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-4921 I have a website in the automotive category. Though this website has a page rank of 6 with many internal pages of pagerank 4 to 6, about 800 pages (almost 80%) are in the supplemental. With a casual inspection I could see that all these pages in the supplemental were the php based dynamic URLs. Google does not seem to index them and though they are linked to high pagerank pages, they can not get out of the supplemental. So the only way to reduce such instances is to rewrite your applications which generate the dynamic URLS and make them search engine friendly. I have a website in the automotive category. Though this website has a page rank of 6 with many internal pages of pagerank 4 to 6, about 800 pages (almost 80%) are in the supplemental.

With a casual inspection I could see that all these pages in the supplemental were the php based dynamic URLs. Google does not seem to index them and though they are linked to high pagerank pages, they can not get out of the supplemental. So the only way to reduce such instances is to rewrite your applications which generate the dynamic URLS and make them search engine friendly.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-2212 Barry Welford Wed, 06 Sep 2006 19:25:55 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-2212 Hi David, that's what Matt Cutts tried to tell you. He said "In general, the best way I know of to move sites from more supplemental to normal is to get high-quality links (don’t bother to get low-quality links just for links’ sake)." That requires that you have strong content that other people want to link to. Hi David, that’s what Matt Cutts tried to tell you. He said “In general, the best way I know of to move sites from more supplemental to normal is to get high-quality links (don’t bother to get low-quality links just for links’ sake).” That requires that you have strong content that other people want to link to.

]]> By: David http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-2206 David Wed, 06 Sep 2006 17:36:47 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-2206 Hi Barry, You said: "That suggests to me it’s better to do what it takes to get your web pages into the regular index and avoid the supplemental index. " What should be done in order to getting into the regular index from supplemental index? Thanks. David Hi Barry,

You said: “That suggests to me it’s better to do what it takes to get your web pages into the regular index and avoid the supplemental index. ”

What should be done in order to getting into the regular index from supplemental index?

Thanks.
David

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-1454 Barry Welford Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:20:03 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-1454 I do find this surprising at this time, minute. I've not seen comments elsewhere about any mass movement of web pages so it may be something relating to your website. As you say getting links to internal web pages is bound to be helpful. I do find this surprising at this time, minute. I’ve not seen comments elsewhere about any mass movement of web pages so it may be something relating to your website. As you say getting links to internal web pages is bound to be helpful.

]]> By: minute http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-1452 minute Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:05:53 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-1452 Just about all my pages have been supplementalized all of a sudden. I'd never even seen it before. I wish I knew more about the mechanics of this. Would it be fair to say that even internal pages need links to them as well, to avoid this, assuming they are not spammy but legitimate pages. Just about all my pages have been supplementalized all of a sudden. I’d never even seen it before. I wish I knew more about the mechanics of this. Would it be fair to say that even internal pages need links to them as well, to avoid this, assuming they are not spammy but legitimate pages.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-1250 Barry Welford Thu, 03 Aug 2006 21:35:16 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2006/07/google-supplemental-results-a-word-to-the-wise/#comment-1250 I think you're just pointing out how you get more web pages in the main index, Jeff, and I would agree with that. I think also content on the web page plays a part in this as well. If you work on inlinks and content then you can be pretty sure you will have web pages that Google will assign to the regular index. There's nothing mysterious about it. Indeed that's what Matt Cutts said in the quote I put in the blog entry that started this. I think you’re just pointing out how you get more web pages in the main index, Jeff, and I would agree with that. I think also content on the web page plays a part in this as well. If you work on inlinks and content then you can be pretty sure you will have web pages that Google will assign to the regular index. There’s nothing mysterious about it. Indeed that’s what Matt Cutts said in the quote I put in the blog entry that started this.

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