Comments on: Headlines Are For Humans, Titles Are For Robots http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/ Internet Marketing And SEO From A Different Point Of View Sun, 11 May 2008 22:25:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Waardevolle SEO & Internet Marketing artikels - week van 11/05/2008 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-171701 Waardevolle SEO & Internet Marketing artikels - week van 11/05/2008 Sun, 11 May 2008 16:23:10 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-171701 [...] Schrijf de titels van je webpagina voor de zoekmachines en je headlines voor je bezoekers [...] [...] Schrijf de titels van je webpagina voor de zoekmachines en je headlines voor je bezoekers [...]

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-170194 Barry Welford Mon, 05 May 2008 23:30:41 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-170194 Bob, I assume you mean allowing others to track-back to your post. In effect this is a back-link to use Google's term (Yahoo! calls it an inlink). Such links provided they're from authoritative websites are certainly useful in gaining higher Google rankings. Bob, I assume you mean allowing others to track-back to your post. In effect this is a back-link to use Google’s term (Yahoo! calls it an inlink). Such links provided they’re from authoritative websites are certainly useful in gaining higher Google rankings.

]]> By: Bob http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-170189 Bob Mon, 05 May 2008 23:18:24 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-170189 I get the title, description, etc. but do adding track backs help at all? I get the title, description, etc. but do adding track backs help at all?

]]> By: Annie Maloney http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-170182 Annie Maloney Mon, 05 May 2008 22:55:21 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-170182 Barry, Great article! Lots of good information. Its amazing how many times I still see "Home Page" as the title for a page. Many people are still using the same meta description by default on all their pages and unfortunatley, like greywolf said, there are still some CMSs that do not allow these fields to be edited or optimized. This is a good start and explanation for some on-site SEO that is easy to understand even for the most novice of bloggers/site creators. Barry, Great article! Lots of good information. Its amazing how many times I still see “Home Page” as the title for a page. Many people are still using the same meta description by default on all their pages and unfortunatley, like greywolf said, there are still some CMSs that do not allow these fields to be edited or optimized. This is a good start and explanation for some on-site SEO that is easy to understand even for the most novice of bloggers/site creators.

]]> By: SEO for Blogs | WebsiteManagementServices.net http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-153740 SEO for Blogs | WebsiteManagementServices.net Wed, 19 Mar 2008 01:56:40 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-153740 [...] It is also important that you bloggers out there are aware of what you need to do to make sure your blog is seen by as many people as possible. Don’t assume that your blog software is doing the job automatically, it most likely is not and your website traffic will suffer as a result, check out this article…. http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/ [...] [...] It is also important that you bloggers out there are aware of what you need to do to make sure your blog is seen by as many people as possible. Don’t assume that your blog software is doing the job automatically, it most likely is not and your website traffic will suffer as a result, check out this article…. http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/ [...]

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152204 Barry Welford Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:30:32 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152204 That's interesting, Charlotte. However I'll be looking into it to write my Titles rather than my Headlines. If I find it's created something memorable for humans too, then I'd use the same for both. Thanks for the suggestion. That’s interesting, Charlotte. However I’ll be looking into it to write my Titles rather than my Headlines. If I find it’s created something memorable for humans too, then I’d use the same for both. Thanks for the suggestion.

]]> By: Charlotte Babb http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152192 Charlotte Babb Wed, 12 Mar 2008 10:40:52 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152192 I've been using James Brausch's Glyphius to help me write headlines that search engines like. It lets me try different variations and scores them for effectiveness against its database. It even counts characters so I can optimize for Twitter or other short snippets. I’ve been using James Brausch’s Glyphius to help me write headlines that search engines like. It lets me try different variations and scores them for effectiveness against its database. It even counts characters so I can optimize for Twitter or other short snippets.

]]> By: Creating Titles That The Search Engines Will Love http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152051 Creating Titles That The Search Engines Will Love Tue, 11 Mar 2008 20:36:43 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152051 [...] Visit “Headlines Are For Humans, Titles Are For Robots” [...] [...] Visit “Headlines Are For Humans, Titles Are For Robots” [...]

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152026 Barry Welford Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:40:19 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152026 Thanks, Anita. You can't guarantee that Google will choose to use your 155 characters in its snippet, but when it does it certainly gives a more enticing entry. Thanks, Anita. You can’t guarantee that Google will choose to use your 155 characters in its snippet, but when it does it certainly gives a more enticing entry.

]]> By: Anita Campbell http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152023 Anita Campbell Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:27:47 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152023 Barry, Great article. Your advice about focusing on the first 155 characters is something I will be sharing with my team. And there ya go! Another useful use for Twitter (with its 142 character limit) -- perfect way to practice getting to the point early. Anita Barry, Great article. Your advice about focusing on the first 155 characters is something I will be sharing with my team.

And there ya go! Another useful use for Twitter (with its 142 character limit) — perfect way to practice getting to the point early.

Anita

]]> By: Überschrift und Titel in WordPress http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152002 Überschrift und Titel in WordPress Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:45:04 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-152002 [...] wurde ich in diesem Fall übrigens durch den SEO Titles-Artikel bei BPWrap. Sinngemäß vegetierte ein ähnlicher Entwurf schon längere [...] [...] wurde ich in diesem Fall übrigens durch den SEO Titles-Artikel bei BPWrap. Sinngemäß vegetierte ein ähnlicher Entwurf schon längere [...]

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151923 Barry Welford Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:06:29 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151923 I'm glad you like it, Ken. I'm enthusiastic about the ability of the plugin, particularly if you put the extra effort in for your more noteworthy posts. I’m glad you like it, Ken. I’m enthusiastic about the ability of the plugin, particularly if you put the extra effort in for your more noteworthy posts.

]]> By: KenJones http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151881 KenJones Tue, 11 Mar 2008 10:16:54 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151881 Really useful post Barry. I've just started using WordPress with the all-in-one SEO plugin so thanks for providing the link to Katy's post as well, that'll really help to learn some of the finer points of using the pack. Really useful post Barry. I’ve just started using WordPress with the all-in-one SEO plugin so thanks for providing the link to Katy’s post as well, that’ll really help to learn some of the finer points of using the pack.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151739 Barry Welford Mon, 10 Mar 2008 23:38:12 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151739 Thank you, Michael. You're right and it's worth adding descriptions to that list since Google seems to find them important, even if they don't affect rankings. Thank you, Michael. You’re right and it’s worth adding descriptions to that list since Google seems to find them important, even if they don’t affect rankings.

]]> By: graywolf http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151685 graywolf Mon, 10 Mar 2008 21:23:05 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151685 You know it's amazing how many CMS systems don't have the ability to create different titles, headlines and URL's out of the box. good post. You know it’s amazing how many CMS systems don’t have the ability to create different titles, headlines and URL’s out of the box. good post.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151677 Barry Welford Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:40:12 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151677 Happy to see you here, Katy. I wouldn't think you need the SEO Title Tag since the All in One SEO Pack does that and much more. Happy to see you here, Katy. I wouldn’t think you need the SEO Title Tag since the All in One SEO Pack does that and much more.

]]> By: Katy Castro http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151675 Katy Castro Mon, 10 Mar 2008 20:37:06 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151675 Great post and explanation. I'll have to look into the SEO Title Tag plugin. I've heard a few things about it but haven't ever taken the time to really look into it and see how useful it could be for me when I'm already running the All in One SEO Pack. Also, thank you for the link back to my tutorial on I'm Blogging That. Great post and explanation. I’ll have to look into the SEO Title Tag plugin. I’ve heard a few things about it but haven’t ever taken the time to really look into it and see how useful it could be for me when I’m already running the All in One SEO Pack.

Also, thank you for the link back to my tutorial on I’m Blogging That.

]]> By: gabs http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151509 gabs Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:25:05 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151509 One great way to see high CTR on titles is to monitor forums in the niche as if the forum ranks you are able to see the cross section between members and SERP clicks on the threads title.. One great way to see high CTR on titles is to monitor forums in the niche as if the forum ranks you are able to see the cross section between members and SERP clicks on the threads title..

]]> By: Barry Welford http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151499 Barry Welford Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:55:01 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151499 Of course you're right, Andy. My Headline for this post is deliberately more black and white than it needs to be to attract more interest among readers in social media. However if you see the Title and the Headline as two opportunities to tune the message, that gives extra flexibility. All I'm suggesting is that the priority target for the Title can be the robot, while the priority target for the Headline can be the human visitor. Of course you’re right, Andy. My Headline for this post is deliberately more black and white than it needs to be to attract more interest among readers in social media. However if you see the Title and the Headline as two opportunities to tune the message, that gives extra flexibility. All I’m suggesting is that the priority target for the Title can be the robot, while the priority target for the Headline can be the human visitor.

]]> By: Andy Beard http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151494 Andy Beard Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:42:16 +0000 http://blog.cre8asite.net/bwelford/2008/03/write-seo-titles-for-high-rankings/#comment-151494 Some things to consider Your post title will appear in RSS feeds and get used by a large number of people giving you backlinks, even the splogs. Social bookmark plugins will pick up the page title, not your headline There are good reasons to make your initial headline useful for SEO, and if it is written for high CTR then it is also potentially something better to have in the SERPs as well. Some things to consider

Your post title will appear in RSS feeds and get used by a large number of people giving you backlinks, even the splogs.
Social bookmark plugins will pick up the page title, not your headline

There are good reasons to make your initial headline useful for SEO, and if it is written for high CTR then it is also potentially something better to have in the SERPs as well.

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